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Faces in FinOps Podcast: Episode 26 with Dan Ortman

Originally Published September, 2025

By:

Ernest Salaz

About this episode

In this episode of Faces in FinOps, SteveO chats with Dan Ortman, Global Director at Kyndryl and former FinOps Foundation board member. With 25+ years in IT, Dan shares why organizations must go beyond “checking the boxes” in FinOps—tagging policies, compliance reports, and frameworks mean little if they’re not adopted and embedded into real decision-making.

Key insights include:

  • Adoption over compliance: It’s not enough to have tags or reports—do business units use them to make smarter choices?
  • Collaboration is essential: Successful FinOps extends beyond cloud teams to include ITAM, change management, and finance.
  • Executive sponsorship matters: Without leadership alignment, FinOps risks being seen as “cost policing.”
  • Microsoft shifts ahead: Dan also breaks down upcoming changes to Microsoft’s enterprise agreements—removal of level-based discounts—and what it means for SaaS cost management in FinOps.

His advice? Keep checking the boxes, but go further: measure adoption, embed FinOps into ways of working, and stay curious about how teams operate.

Whether you are new to #FinOps or a seasoned pro, this episode has something for everyone so tune in to the Faces in FinOps Podcast today.


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